the first few bands werent having their best night, i was starting to get depressed, i went and got some coffee upstairs since i had already hit the merch table 3 or 4 times and gotten my fill and expended all my cash on tshirts, luckily Rk took credit. So i did a little "swipe and forget" action and got 2 tshirts and a hoodie. But i came back down for john reuben, i thought there was potential, but just like collective soul's new cd, it never reached the expectation. Shane liked it pretty good though. If i were to compare talent and stage presence to KJ-52--Kj has him beat by far.....